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- DATE OF UPLOAD: July 6, 1990
- ORIGIN OF UPLOAD: ParaNet Alpha-Delta(sm)
- CONTRIBUTED BY: Don Ecker/Director Network Security
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-
- To all ParaNet Members;
-
- When I uploaded the CARP.UFO report several weeks ago, I mentioned
- another report that I had received. The CARP.UFO report was an
- unsigned document, no signature, and no return address. As I
- stated in reference to that, I gave no credence to the report
- because of the manner that I received it. This report is a bit
- different. I did speak to the person that sent it, and am still
- waiting to hear back from his group. The file is an alledged
- interview between two men, the interviewer is under a pseudonym of
- Bill. The interviewee is supposed to be a retired Three Star
- General that undertook a favor to "Bill" to check into the UFO
- question. The man I spoke to is the director of this group, and
- even though he was aware of who I am, and the reason for my
- questions, he refused to put me in touch with either of the other
- two gentlemen "until they checked me out." I am still waiting to
- hear from them.
-
- Because of some of the subject matter in the report, I had a
- feeling that there was quite a bit of information in this report
- that had been deleted. According to the director I was right. He
- told me that "Bill" was a still active duty Full Colonel and that 3
- Star was at one time Bill and his commanding officer.
-
- The deleted information is supposed to contain some very disturbing
- information that deals with mutilations, both animal and human, and
- a large number of abducted and missing children and young adults.
- According to the director of this group there were about 20 to 25
- pages of deleted material. Also seen but of course as is usual, a
- number of photos that 3 Star was able to get at one point. I would
- rate this report as highly strange, but at this point unverifiable.
- At any rate here is the report and any suggestions from the
- members are most certainly welcome.
-
- I will use Bill for the interviewer and 3* for the interviewee.
-
- Don Ecker
-
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- THE INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT HAS BEEN EDITED FOR THE REASONS AS
- STATED WITHIN. MUCH INFORMATION WAS DELETED FOR THE PURPOSE OF
- RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.
-
- Bill> Have you read the book "The Roswell Incident"?
-
- 3*> Yes I have.
-
- Bill> What did you think of the book and just how true is it?
-
- 3*> Bill, as I promised you, I used my contacts and several
- favors due me over the years and I found out extremely sensitive
- information which absolutely verify the information as stated in
- the Roswell Incident.
- The book intrigued me as I read it. At first, I felt the facts or
- should I say information in the book were there just to sell it and
- make our Govt. out to be the bad guy...as so many books do today.
- However, the public has abeen lied to for over 40 years. This
- bothers me a great deal. But decisions were made decades ago. The
- situation in my opinion, is totally out of hand.
-
- Bill> You look concerned and sound irritated. What is wrong?
-
- 3*> Around 4 months ago I called in several favors. I was given
- documents, allowed to view video tape, given photographs, base
- locations and I was even asked to participate in the "Awareness
- Program"...which is to disseminate Alien contact to the public.
-
- I turned down the offer. When I did I was sort of an outcast and I
- found friends of 30 years had no time for me. I soon was limited to
- all forms of information. Hell, every time I requested anything
- through normal channels it was either lost or delayed for "higher
- approval". This was normal everyday decisions, which wer NEVER
- questioned before. I gave over --30-- years of faithful and loyal
- service to this great country of ours. Who in the hell do those
- political bastards think they are anyway?
-
- Bill> I don't know what to say. I feel that because I asked for
- the inquiry, you got into trouble. I really feel bad. I know you
- didn't get where you are today by taking it easy. Did you retire?
-
- 3*> You are not responsible! I kind-of knew what I might get
- myself into. I always had my suspicionss and I to heard the rumors
- about alien spacecraft that crashed, bodies found, alien craft shot
- down, UFO evidence stored in special buildings on certain military
- bases. I just never really took it seriously. I know it is true. I
- have seen the evidence, I have seen the alien craft, the frozen
- bodies from the Roswell site and I have seen on video tape, the
- live alien which is a guest of the U. S. Govt. To answer your last
- question, yes I did retire.
-
- Bill> Could you give some specific information on the Aliens,
- what they want, the govt. involvement, the reason why we have not
- officially been told about alien involvement in our society and why
- all of the many "strange" things or happenings associated with UFO
- sightings and people-contact with aliens?
-
- 3*> There have been several crashes of UFOs over the years. From
- all documentation and information available that I have seen with
- my own eyes as well as the physical evidence, this is in answer to
- your questions.
- 1. The aliens really do not have any sort of invasion planned for
- this planet. Aliens have visited this planet off and on for
- thousands of years. Our U.S. guest is over 300 years old. There are
- both "good and bad" aliens just as there are good and bad humans.
- They are not all that different from us. The aliens utilize around
- 55% of their brain capacity or ability. The aliens do have DNA,
- just like we do. The alien which is the guest of the U.S. Govt. is
- 5 feet 3 inches tall and weights 96 pounds. Large head (no hair)
- large slanted eyes. Some of the aliens' abilities include moderate
- telepathy and telekinisis.
-
- The purpose of alien visitation to this planet is one of curiosity
- and scientific research. Not world domination as some would have
- you believe. Cattle and humans have been used in alien and U.S.
- research for various biological applications. Most humans are not
- hurt in this research and experimentation. Some however, have died
- due to complications and down-right carelessness.
-
- Several cross-breed "young" have been born to both human females
- and alien females. We as humans are fully biological compatible
- with most visiting aliens. Some we are not. More that one tyhpe or
- specie of alien has visited this planet. They are listed by
- category...this information I could not retrieve.
-
- 2. The U. S. Govt. and the British ahve made secret treaty
- agreements with the aliens in exchange for technology and so-called
- recon missions during times of human conflict. The aliens have
- basically agreed not to concern themselves with the wars or
- conflicts of humans. Not to interfere in society. Let the Govts.
- rule and decide. Exactly what the aliens get in return was not
- exactly made clear or available.
-
- Also, there are special teams which eradicate, discredit, harass
- and turmp-up charges to control humans which experience any
- visitations from aliens, or make verifiable UFO sightings. This is
- one of the reasons I retired. It's too much for any govt. to impose
- upon the civilian population like this.
-
- 3. Many of the strange happenings which people experience with UFO
- sightings can be one of two things. First, simply an overactive and
- wishful imagination. Second and foremost is the influence of the
- vast mental power of the alien visitors. In the reports and
- experiments conducted with live aliens, they have an incredible
- power of telepathic suggestion. Combine this with their telekentic
- abilities and just about anyone can be some-what directed to do or
- think just about anything.
-
- Did I cover all of your questions?
-
- Bill> One more and you'll be done. Why all the secrecy from day
- one about the alien contact, the Roswell Incident, UFOs etc.?
-
- 3*> The Roswell Incident happened at a very hectic time. World
- problems and domestic matters drew priority. Make no mistake, Pres.
- Truman and laater Pres. Eisenhower gave specific direct orders to
- keep everything and I mean everything top secret. At that time, all
- alien (known as EBE) information became departmentalized and
- dispersed on a need to know only babis. I as well as others heard
- rumors and pursued our career with no further thought to the matter.
-
- Also consider the fact that even with today's high technology we
- still don't know all of the propulsion system, craft manufacture
- and so forth. The most recent information that I did manage to
- receive before I was cut off is that the alien craft has
- more-or-less been copied by top scientific experts and is functional.
-
- The "special group" assigned to oversee the alien situation and
- other govt. VIPs agree to gather all of the tchnology possible and
- put it to use for the benefit of the USA. I really wonder what
- other motives are there. One very important thought about reasons
- for secrecy are common religioius values and beliefs. Most of the
- world religions (especially in the US) would tumble. This in turn
- would cause panic and chaos. Something not wanted or needed in any
- time.
-
- Look at the big lie the Federal Govt. has created, promoted swore
- to and fed to the public over the past 42 years. Even the
- Presidents of the US from 1947 to present day has lied about this
- situation. Talk about a cover up? If this information would ever
- get out, many people from the President down would be removed from
- office. Many would go to jail in one form or another.
-
- My information led me to other more graphic reasons that I really
- don't want to discuss. This whole situation is fantastic enough and
- the imnplications are endless.
-
- The "awareness program" that I mentioned earlier was designed to
- inform the public about alien contact, landings, crashes, the
- Roswell Incident, UFOs and the govt. All of this is filtered to the
- public in a systematic, logical way. This is coupled with the
- increased alien--human abductions and contacts. This is a joint
- govt. and alien program. If done correctly, there will be extremely
- little or no panic and no resistance. The world govts. will retain
- control and chaos is avoided.
-
- Bill> Thank you very much for your time and this timely
- information.
-
- 3*> Now that I have found this information out, I wonder about
- everything I could not access or was prevented from learning when I
- turned down the position on the "asareness program"?
-
- Bill> I know that I am pushing it a bit here but could you go
- into some of the topics that seem to be eating away at you?
-
- 3*> Lets take a break from this interview for now. Its after
- 11:00 PM and I'm tired. I'll give you a call in a few days and we
- will go from there.
-
- Bill> It sounds good to me too. I've got a lot of work to do in
- the morning so I better call it quits for now.
-
- =================================================================
-
- This is the second and final installment of the purported interview
- with a retired 3 Star General, being interviewed by what was
- described to me as a still active duty Full Colonel interested in
- the subject of UFOs. Now prior to continuing with this, allow me
- to make an observation.
-
- Since I uploaded part one of this file, and with the upload of the
- previous file -- CARP.UFO-- I have received several E-Mail notes
- asking me why I have put out such outlandish and paranoid files. I
- will answer like this. First, I do not believe that any of us here
- have a really good and solid idea of just what is happening in the
- bizarre world of UFOs. Since I have started to explore this thing
- several years ago, believe me when I tell you that I have
- experienced most of the angles of this subject. Everything from the
- Space-Brothers are here to save us from ourselves, tales of ET love
- affairs with the likes of the ledgendary Semjase ( now that is one
- ET I would LOVE to meet! ) to tales of "Their here eating us!!" to
- the Leader of the free world selling drugs to support MJ-12!!!!
- What this all boils down to is a hell of alot of rhetoric and damn
- little proof. Oh, there is some proof to be sure, ie mutilated
- cows, ( you ain't lived till you have been up to your elbows in one
- ) scars on alledged abductee's ( one gentleman told me that he
- turned gay after his 16th birthday because of repeated abductions.
- he was tired of being forced to copulate with alien females )
- landing traces ( hard baked soil compacted inches, something damn
- heavy had set down on it ) and tales from dozens of people, living
- in some cases a whole continent apart ( with the same information
- in uncanny detail ). OK, what does this mean? In my opinion, it
- means that SOMETHING damn strange IS INDEED ONGOING..... so, that
- means that the only way to find out is investigate and investigate
- some more. Knowledge is power, so the reason I have uploaded this
- files is that MAYBE someone out there in computer land, ( and you
- would be really suprised where all ParaNet DOES GO ) will have a
- missing piece of the puzzle, and better yet will contact one of we
- happy little band of investigators -- with PROOF
- .................... and by the way, to those good meaning folks
- that have written me email, just because I put something up here,
- it does not mean that I think this is what really is happening.
- Always read what I have to say about the file in advance. In this
- case, I stated that there is HIGH STRANGENESS in this one, BUT NO
- PROOF THAT IT IS LEGITIMATE.
-
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- Part II of the 3 * interview.
-
- JULY 14, 1989
-
- Bill> Thank you for agreeing to a second interview on this
- topic. Did you enjoy your trip to the mountains?
-
- 3* > Yes my wife and I had a wonderful time.
-
- Bill> What is bothering you so much about the alien situation?
-
- 3* > As I mentioned before, there have been several UFO crashes,
- not just the one in Roswell, New Mexico. Look at the documents I
- brought with me. The photos are quite explicit to the CARGO OF SOME
- OF THE UFOs.
-
- Bill> Why are there children aboard these crafts!? My God! You
- don't mean that the aliens are snaching our kids? What for??
-
- 3* > There are over a million missing children every year in the
- US alone. Now, not all of them have been taken by aliens. The
- aliens take about 2,200 children a year from the US and other
- countries. Its all right there in the report attached to the three
- photos. The rest of the missing children are the result of
- mankind's dark side. You know what I mean. It's in the paper every
- day.
-
- The children are used in several ways; biological, to educate and
- return, experimentation, disease study. The same as adults.
-
- Bill> Adults are one matter, but leave the children alone. I am
- very bothered by this information. According to the report,
- implants are being used on the people that are taken aboard UFOs
- and returned. Some of these implants are microscopic in size (and
- smaller) and influence the growth, function and learning
- capabilities of the individual. This is a very detailed report.
- Could I have a copy?
-
- 3* > No, Sorry but you know our agreement was that you did not
- get to keep or copy any paperwork. As well as the other matters we
- discussed.
-
- Bill> That you did! I will keep my word, don't worry.
-
- 3* > I would like to mention a little bit more of why the public
- have not been told the truth. Lets run through the whole thing
- rather quickly.
- 1. Security/Fear Factor; Everyone feels safe knowing that the US
- is one of the dominate powers on Earth. Right? The Human race is in
- control and science will solve it all. The simple fact is--if you
- take away the security of people it is replaced with fear! Fear is
- the first step to chaos. Just imagine what would happen if there
- was an announcement that the govts. are no longer in control, we
- have aliens living among us, they have kidnapped our people, used
- them as guinea pigs, killed them, manipulated our culture, tampered
- with our food, created new diseases to study on us, have interbred
- with us and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it. Now, how
- do you think the public would react?
-
- 2. The fact that the Govt. have been lying, covering up the truth,
- have given permission for abductions and experiments on the public.
- Keep in mind that the agencies involved are highly covert, funded
- very well and have almost absolute power (life and death) over
- anyone who interferes. How do you think the public will react?
-
- 3. Cures for certain diseases, free electrical power, pollution
- free energy, no longer a need for fossil fuels, abundant food and
- water for everyone. All of this has been possible for many years
- now. What would happen if this technology was turned loose to the
- public? The tech report showed that within the first year over 18
- million people out of work. The monetary system would collapse and
- all of the other problems that go along with it. A REAL
- POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL NUCLEAR CONFLICT........ALL OUT OF FEAR!!
- Is it really worth the chance?
-
- Bill> What you say does make sense when you think about it.
- What is going on with the sudden surge in UFOs, aliens, abductions
- and the like? Is this part of the awareness program?
-
- 3* > Yes it is. The awareness program calls for the funding of
- movies, series on TV, specials and books. All of the "front" money
- will filter its way to fund a TV series or movie if it is deemed
- worthy of friendly, helpful alien contact. An idea is passed along
- to the big named producers and directors and if it takes hold,
- everything will fall in place and the funding starts. It is really
- unique how it all works. Now way to trace it to the govt. and the
- people involved truely believe it is their own creative work.
- Everyone gets into the act and no problems. After the movie hits
- the public, the reaction and interest of the masses are carefully
- monitored.
-
- Abductions of humans are both random and selective. Influential
- people are selected to either -- explain and guide the public or to
- serve some political need or requirement.
-
- UFO sightings increase when needed to draw the attention of the
- public. You must keep in mind that the mere mention of UFOs, aliens
- and the like will draw weird looks, rumors and make people believe
- that you have a mental problem, not playing with a full deck of
- cards and so forth. People will make fun of you and will laugh at
- you! THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT. AND WHO WANTS TO BE LAUGHED
- AT WHEN THEY ARE SERIOUS? The result is not one will say anything
- unless there are many witnesses. The unique thing about this
- subject is people don't want to believe. The general feeling is
- that mankind is all. There is nothing else but God and Country.
- This is what most people believe. I am not disputing or disagreeing
- with anything. I just find it amazing that people in general are so
- damn stupid and stubborn. Let alone that many are so pompous and
- self-rightous about their religion and self image. Do these people
- have a rude awaking someday! It can surely be said that we are not
- alone in this universe.
-
- Bill> How large are UFOs? What type of propulsion system do the
- crafts use? do you have any photographs I could look at?
-
- 3* > The alien crafts are disc, triangle, oblong cigar shaped.
- The range from 30 ft in dia. for the smaller recon discs to over
- 730 ft in dia. for the larger "mother" discs or the flying saucer,
- if you will.
-
- The triangle shaped crafts are 210 ft. in dia. This does not seem
- to change as you can see in the photos which show 3 different
- triangle crafts which all measure the same and are identical in
- shape and appearance.
-
- The oblong cigar shaped craft is the real big one of the three. The
- only one ever found by the military in the late 60's measured 1,100
- ft. long with a circumference of 310 ft. Take a look at this photo
- and read the report attached. The information gathered from this
- one enabled us to copy the basics of alien technology. It took 20
- yrs to do so.
-
- The basic propulsion system or drive is a fusion reactor which
- ranges in size from about the size of a medicine ball, you know the
- one tossed around in gym class, to about the size of a large Van or
- station wagon. It is a magnetic drive surrounded by an aura of
- bright white light. This is for the disc and triangle shaped
- crafts. The oblong cigar shaped craft does not have this aura of
- light. All crafts are almost totally silent. There is some noise.
-
- Bill> I can't believe the photos! This looks like something
- right out of the movies. The other report information which is
- stapled to the photos is very detailed. This information is both
- fantastic and very scary! I wish I could share this proof that I am
- now holding in my hands. I know, I won't ask again. You have to get
- this evidence back where it belongs before it is noticed missing,
- don't you?
-
- 3* > Yes I do. If this documentation ever got out I am sure
- several individuals would be terminated. The powers to be have a
- systematic method and program that deals with documentation,
- verification and termination of information and personnel.
-
- The most important asset to the Govt. on the subject of aliens,
- UFOs, cover-up story and the like is simply the "OVERALL PROJECTION
- OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE UFO EXPERIENCES IS ONE OF FANTASY, DELUSIONS,
- MIS-CONCEPTIONS, UNRELIABLE KOOKS AND CRACK-POTS AND DOWN RIGHT
- LIARS." Also keep in mind that the news reporters and the news
- media in general, poke fun at individuals with their quirk smile
- and light attitude about the whole thing. Matters can be
- documented. The proof is out there and is available. Many people
- must come down off their high horse and open their eyes. it is no
- shame to admit that you are wrong. No one knows everything and no
- one should be expected to.
-
- Bill> It seems to me that you have talked to several people
- about this subject and the outcome has been negative? At least as
- you describe the general attitude earlier. Maybe we ought to wrap
- this issue up?
-
- 3* > I really hate to be sour about this subject but the people
- of this planet have a God given right to the truth. Many people
- will not believe what has been stated herein. Many questions are
- raised and can not be answered. Certainly not to the satisfaction
- of many. Until the day comes when the big announcement and/or
- experience happens to you --the individual--you will be too busy
- and skeptical. Just like I was!
-
- Bill> Thank you for everything you have done for me. As I agreed
- to do earlier, I will edit out the graphic details and other
- information you requested to cover you identity and prevent the
- people who helped you obtain the documentation from being suspected.
-
- 3* > I am well aware that there are no guarantees when this
- informatioon hits the media. I just hope that the people involved
- with this whole UFO, alien, and Govt. connection will come forward
- and let the world know. I feel that mankind will become mature
- enough to think before acting in the coming decade of the 1990's.
-
-
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- END OF TRANSCRIPTION FROM MASTER TAPE--EDITED AS
- PER AGREEMENT--- ( from the hard copy---- D. E. )
-